Derren Brown: Archive

Bookmark and Share

Message ID: 02774[ Previous ]    [ Next ]    [ Up Thread ]

From: lauren_macsporren
Date: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Colin Fry

You still haven't explained how Colin can tell someone something that
they haven't talked about in years. Even if he says something that
the person thinks can't be right, he doesn't just give up, he
persists and then when they really think about it they realise what
he's saying is true and remember the exact incident or whatever it
What is this cold-reading thing then? Even if Colin is a fake I don't
care as I said before. He's not doing me any harm. I just think that
people should have an open mind if they can't prove anything. You
don't know for absolute sure that all mediums are liars. I mean,
before Newton, who'd have thought there was a force pulling us to the

--- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> OK, you asked for it...
> Magicians aren't fakes, everyone knows they're being fooled, just
> HOW. These psychics are the most cynically manipulative scum in
> circulation since the swindling, bouffe-haired, white-suited
> evangelical church ministers seen in the US, and no doubt over here
> in droves someday.
> If they want to get on TV and/or make people happy, why not just
> they're cold-readers out to amaze you with their uncanny knowledge
> YOUR FAMILY! I can only guess it's because no-one would pay to see
> them, or maybe fewer people would.
> It'd be interesting (though no doubt difficult because of the money
> Fry & others make for the studios) to get a show made by fakes,
> either openly or by announcing it at the end.
> From James Randi's website:
> A believer recently sent in a puzzled observation to a "psychic"
> website in the UK:
> It's my first time here and I just want to say that I think Colin
> is brilliant. However, one question that puzzles me & I hope you
> people can help! I've just been watching his programme "Sixth
> on TV. He asked a general question to the whole audience but the
> camera focused on the person who answered before they made
> known. Are the cameramen psychic too? Even the makers of "live"
> like "Question Time" take a good few seconds to home in onto the
> individual! Something not quite right here!!!
> Good observation! And I agree with your puzzlement... Another fan
> sent in this commentary:
> Having been on television quite a lot, I can say from experience
> there is so much that is fake, and I find it very disappointing.
> There is no such thing as a truly "live" show, the amount of
> that goes into live shows is huge, particularly the ones that are
> actually trying to be convincing. I could say more but it is
> not the best thing to do, [libel?] but friends who have been with
> were amazed at how staged it all is.
> Reader John Atkinson added:
> One of the TV psychics (Edward?) had a good method. A few weeks
> before the show was taped, he sent out people into the community to
> take a survey. When these survey people were in the house, they'd
> take a good look around and also get as many names as they could.
> They already had the address. A few days later, an invitation to
> studio would arrive. No one tied the two events together. When
> people were in the studio, unknown to them, they were assigned
> according to their address. It was now a trivial matter for
> the "psychic" to seem to know a lot about them. The fraud was
> discovered when a few people switched seats before the show was
> started, and that caused a lot of embarrassment for the "star" of
> show. --- In a previous message lauren_macsporren"
> wrote:
> > Why is everyone so hung up on Colin Fry? So what if he's a fake?
> > makes people happy so what's the problem? Magicians are fakes for
> > god's sake.
> >
> >
> > --- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> > > --- In a previous message dsimon9874 wrote:
> > > > I notice our vociferous supporter of Colin Fry never rose to
> the
> > > challenge of producing us all a transcript to examine and
> > > >
> > > > Wonder why?
> > >
> > > Must look for a Colin Fry discussion group sometime. I'm sure
> > > must, from time to time.
> > > For research purposes, naturally.
> > >
> > > Don't get me started...

RepliesAuthorYahoo! IDDateSize
2780: Re: Colin FrysinghstealthsinghstealthMon 17/02/20037 KB
2782: Re: Colin FrywayneryderwayneryderMon 17/02/20036 KB

site design, layout and contents © 2003-2022 Richard Shakeshaft, unless otherwise attributed
Richard Shakeshaft is a participant in the Amazon EU Associates Programme, an affiliate advertising programme designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees
by advertising and linking to