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From: nxnzerx
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:21pm
Subject: Re: the girl that can't be picked up by the boxers

The unbendable arm is a very good visual/physical aid for the art of
relaxation and centering that are essential for Aikido - however,
the effect that Derren achieved with the girl in the gym had nothing
to do with Ki and plenty to do with hand positioning ;)

Watch the tape again and ignore everyone apart from the girl and her
arms...


--- In a previous message mrb_bailey wrote:
> sorry i didn't read that.
> I agree with you. But we'll never know how he did it.
>
> The unbendable arm thing is good fun.
>
> Some daft girl in a pub some months back was telling me about the
> power of crystals. when you find the correct one for you, hold it
in
> your hand and your arm will go stiff.
> she showed her boyfriend how to test for this, and that night she
was
> amazed . all of the crystals she had were right for me!@!
>
> Then a F**ked it up by getting too drunk. Then just about
everything
> became the healing cystal for me. the beer mat healing cystal
didn't
> go down to well. :)
>
> I've dressed the trick up as suggestion to other people that they
will
> not be able to bend my arm. No matter how much I relax, they will
not
> be able to bend my arm.
> then I tell them to tence there arm and bend it(at the elbow) for
them.
> But as I said if you knew aikido(and you do) its not very mind
control
> like.
>
> but its 1% of the puzzle that makes the effect that build upon
effect
> that sells the whole thing.
> --- In a previous message wayneryder wrote:
> > I mentioned a similar thing in Post 1561.
> >
> >
> > --- In a previous message mrb_bailey wrote:
> > > the effect... girl gets into ring. Derren gets a big boxer to
lift
> > the
> > > girl. 1st time he can... Then he does his bit. the next time
the
> > boxer
> > > can't lift the girl... heres how you can do this.
> > >
> > > Well I can't say for sure if this was how the trick was done;
but
> > the
> > > effect of what was done is easy to recreate.
> > >
> > > For anyone that has done ki-aikido there is a thing called
> > unraisable
> > > body. The basic idea is to teach you that if serveral people
can't
> > > lift you up at once, then there is no way the person you are
pinning
> > > to the floor will be able to lift you(get up). A good example
is a
> > > naughty toddler not wanting to move then going dead on the
floor and
> > > somehow they weight 400 times more than they should.
> > > I've not idea why it works I've only been doing aikido for a
year
> > and
> > > the aikido people call it using KI. There are a whole load of
other
> > > "magic/mind control effects" to be had out of it. but if you
show a
> > > person who does aikido and call it magic or mind control
you'll be
> > > laughed at.
> > >
> > > So here the thing. the girl knows aikido or he tells her how
to do
> > > this just before. Derren does his bit and sells the effect and
does
> > it
> > > very well. Which is most important bit.
> > >
> > > Mean while she does the work. 1st lift she goes tence and can
be
> > > lifted. The second lift she uses KI (yes I know its odd but
you get
> > > use to it) and big stong man gets his first taste of aikido.
she
> > can't
> > > be lifted.
> > >
> > > There is one guy (the biggest) who can lift her. Now this
might be
> > > just part of the whole selling the effect or it could be that
she
> > > looked at him and lost her concentration, went tence and up
she
> > went.
> > >
> > > -------------
> > >
> > > what do you think?

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